[Frugalware-darcs] frugalware-current: docs/irc-rules.txt

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[docs/irc-rules.txt
VMiklos <vmiklos at frugalware.org>**20070313134940
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-This document describes the rules to be followed by and user and/or developer
-who join to the user and/or development channel of Frugalware Linux.
+This document describes the rules to be followed by everyone who joins
+the users' and/or developers' IRC channels of Frugalware Linux.
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-You have joined us on IRC, to get help or to give support to other Frugalware
+You have joined us on IRC, to get help from or to give help to other Frugalware
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-basic rules that should be followed on IRC. The rules are here so that anyone
-can read them.
+basic rules that should be followed on IRC. The rules are documented here so
+that they're available to everyone.
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-== Official
+== IRC channels
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-This means that if you are a developer and have time to join us on IRC, then
-you should join there, too. Users don't have the right to speak on the
-development channel so the only way to talk with developers if you join there.
-Please do so.
+.There are four (4) Frugalware Linux channels
+* frugalware (Main, English-language only)
+* frugalware.hu (Hungarian-language only)
+* frugalware.fr (French-language only)
+* frugalware.dev (Frugalware development discussion.  Only Frugalware
+  developers can 'speak' on this channel but everyone can see what's being
+  discussed).
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-== Frugalware
+Please use only the language appropriate to the channel.  If you don't do
+so, you'll be asked to change channels.  If you know of other non-English
+channels, please tell us.
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-The topic of the channel is the Frugalware Linux distribution. You may talk
-about other distributions or other topics, but don't expect that others are
+== Frugalware developers
+
+If you're a Frugalware developer, please also join one or more of the 
+non-developer channels.  Since users don't have the right to speak on the 
+frugalware.dev channel, your presence on a non-developer channel is the only
+way they can chat with you.
+
+== Off-topic discussion
+
+=== Other Linux distributions' features
+
+You may talk discuss other distributions' features but don't expect to be
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-How can i set up my network to work like it under Gentoo?
----------------------------------------------------------
+  How can i set up my network so that it works as it does under Gentoo?
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-is a bit strange, since it's possible that not everyone used Gentoo and
-therefore it's possible that we won't be able to help. Instead of that just
-describe what you want, like:
+is impossible to answer for someone who hasn't used Gentoo.  Instead,
+tell everyone what it is that you're trying to achieve, for example:
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-Is it possible to use network profiles so that I can change all my settings
-with one command when i get home from my workplace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+  Is it possible to use network profiles so that I can change all my settings
+  with one command when i get home from my workplace?
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-== Read the linked documentation
+=== Non-Frugalware discussion
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-Documentation is written by the developers to save time, once they spent a lot
-of time with writing it and then they expect that you read it first before
-asking, or at least when you get a link to the answer, you are expected to read
-it before asking again. Really. Please do it, and don't be lazy.
+Talking about non-Frugalware topics (or even non-Linux) is okay, as long as 
+this doesn't prevent others from talking about Frugalware. We are a community,
+so maybe you want to share other ideas, but don't make it impossible for others
+to get help.
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-== English
+== Asking questions
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-The language of the channel is English. Please don't use other languages so
-that everyone will understand what you say. There are Hungarian and French
-channels named #frugalware.hu and #frugalware.fr. Feel free to inform us if
-there are other non-English channels.
+=== I'm new to Frugalware
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-== Paste
+Welcome!  You probably have general questions, since you're about to install
+Frugalware for the first time, but first you would like to get some of your
+questions answered. No problem, but first please read the about page, you can
+reach it here: http://frugalware.org/about
+
+=== First read the Frugalware documentation
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-The speed of IRC is slow. If you want to copy-and-paste big amount of data
-(typically more than 5 lines), then please use our Pastebin, which is available
-at http://frugalware.org/paste.
+Before asking a question, first read the Frugalware documentation to be sure
+that the answer is not already there.  Those who wrote the documentation have
+spent quite an amount of time and effort.  If your question is answered in the
+documentation you'll be told to read it and provided a link.  So please - read
+the documentation and don't be lazy.
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-== I'm new to Frugalware and...
+=== Don't ask if you can ask a question, just go ahead and ask
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-You have general questions, since you're about to install Frugalware for the
-first time, but first you would like to get some of your questions answered. No
-problem, but first please read the about page, you can reach it here:
-http://frugalware.org/about
+Go ahead and ask your question.  The worst that can happen is that you don't
+get an answer.
+
+== Paste
+
+If you have a few lines of an error message or something similar to show to
+others in the channel, don't paste it into the channel.  This is because:
+# IRC is slow and,
+# it breaks the flow of other peoples' conversations.
+
+Instead, please use our Pastebin, which is available at
+http://frugalware.org/paste.
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-That's not a problem, but please keep in mind the followings: if you are away
-then you should be able to read back the lines when you were highlighted. If
-this is not possible then it's better to quit from the channels, since we think
-that we're talking to you while we're talking with /dev/null. Also if you're
-online and you have been highlighted and asked, please try to answer. If you
-have no time, then a simple
+That's not a problem, but please keep in mind the following: if you are away
+then you should be able to read back the lines when you were highlighted.
+If this is not possible then it's better to quit from the channels, since we
+think that we're talking to you while we're talking with /dev/null. Also if
+you're online and you have been highlighted and asked, please try to answer.
+If you have no time, then a simple 
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-alex: i don't have time atm to answer, sorry
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+  alex: i don't have time atm to answer, sorry
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-Please do _not_ /msg users unless you asked about it and you're allowed. This
-is a support channel: you ask in the channel and who have time / knowledge to
-answer, he/she will. That the fastest way, beleive us.
+Please do _not_ /msg users unless you asked about it and you're allowed.
+This is a support channel: you ask in the channel and who have time / knowledge
+to answer, he/she will. That the fastest way, believe us.
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-== Offtopic
-
-Talking about non-Frugalware topics (or even non-Linux) is okay, as long as
-this doesn't prevent others from talking about Frugalware. We are a community,
-maybe you want to share other ideas, but don't make it impossible for other to
-get help.
-
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-from the homepage, and the main goal: Google searches in them. If you hate
-this, then the best is not to join ;-)
+from the homepage, and the main goal: Google searches in them. If you hate 
+this, then the only choice is to not join ;-)
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