[Frugalware-devel] enabling services by default in upstart?

[Gabriel C]

CSÉCSY László wrote:
> 2007. június 15. dátummal Alex Smith ezt írta:
> 
> Only two questions.
> 
>> already know how to) then enable it. In most cases, if I install a
>> package with an init script, I want that init script to run by default,
>> else I wouldn't have even installed the package. If we get a package
> There are cases where I don't want a service, but it's package is pulled in as 
> a depend (kind of the depend doesn't matter) - nevermind that I can't give
                                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^

> you an example right now. Why should I have it enabled by default, as I could 
> have missed it's presence at all?

mysql as example .. but doesn't matter at all.

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> 
>> enabled by default. Ok, we're devels, we may have personal preferences
>> for the behaviour, but we're creating a product for our users here, we
>> should default to the behaviour that the majority of users want!
> Alex, don't take it personally: how can a (group of) devel(s) know what 
> his/their user(s) want? Another wording: why don't we ask the users instead 
> of the devels? ;)
> 

Do you realize how stupid this is ? brr

>>> what do you think? (please, please vote)
> I (as an user) find "service foo (add|list|del|stop|start)" handy and easy to 
> remember to, and I'm used to it. So I would vote for disabled services by 
> default, if it's not takes ages to implement so.

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Now the other way around .. why is so *hard* for you to type 'blah_wrapper foo del' ? if you don't need foo.

And again 'we' the devels 'know' about on howto enable/disable services and whatever but newer/new FrugalWare users does not.
_I_ don't really like all the stuff starts by default but in my opinion is better for the most [2]'normal' users

[2] != devel , != geeks


crazy