[Frugalware-devel] [RFC] start fun by default?

[Priyank Gosalia]

Gabriel C wrote:
> Miklos Vajna wrote:
>   
>> hi,
>>     
>
> Hi,
>
>   
>> i just recently realized that we have this great tool, fun, but if it's
>> not started by default then probably an avarage user won't even notice
>> it.
>>
>> so what about starting it by default? it would ping the users again and
>> again to install security updates which is not a bad idea i think.
>>
>> of course if someone does not like so, it can be still disabled.
>>     
>
> You can disable until next fun upgrade/update and that's bad.
>
> Eg: to auto enable it you have to *force* the service to start from install
> script.[*]
>
>   
>> or is this too agressive and should we forget about it?
>>     
>
> IHMO fun is not ready for that *yet* ( where yet is 0.8 ) it need some fixing first.
>
> 1) Allow the service to be started from 'fun' itself.
>    Like we do for gfpm  which auto detects kde,gk{su} or sudo , then we easy can start the 
>    service as 'user'.
>   
IMHO that's not possible. This is because, fun basically uses libalpm 
for checking for new updates (syncing), you require the program to be 
run as superuser because that's a libalpm prerequisite.

So, i don't think we can have fun start the (daemon) service from itself.
> [*] At the moment you get this when the daemon is not running:
>
> - fun
> ERROR: The name org.frugalware.FWUpdateNotifier was not provided by any .service files
>
> ** ERROR **: Failed to connect to the fun daemon
>
> aborting...
> Trace/breakpoint trap
>
> Which is bad isn't it ?
>
> 2) Add some option to fun to make it shut up * permanently * if someone does not want it
>  ( probably it could be done with autostart / desktop files and some config file also ) 
>   until 'someone' re-enable it :P
>
>
>   
>> if not, then we could update the relevant xfce/kde/gnome packages to do
>> this.
>>
>> hmm?
>>
>>     
>
> I like the idea but really fun need some fixing for doing that and is to late for 0.8 I think.
>
> Of course if priyank can / want fix | implement these things in that short time before 0.8 I'm all for it.
>
>   
>> - VMiklos
>>
>>     
>
>
> crazy
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