From mamajom at axelero.hu Tue Nov 2 23:01:19 2004 From: mamajom at axelero.hu (VMiklos) Date: Tue Nov 2 23:02:20 2004 Subject: [Frugalware-users] Re: Frugalware FAQ? In-Reply-To: <1099409631.2429.13.camel@berea> References: <1099408821.2429.8.camel@berea> <1099409631.2429.13.camel@berea> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Riku Nurkka wrote: > ...ah, I just found (with Google) that there is already an about page > too (plus a mail archive): > http://frugalware.org/about.php > But I couldn't find any links to it from the front page. > > Besides, Mozilla Firefox gives me error messages on your pages, the > pages show but not properly. The upper part of the pages contain these > error strings: > > Warning: main(lang/fi.php) [function.main]: failed to open > stream: No such file or directory in > /mnt/data/ftp/pub/frugalware/frugalware-current/docs/homepage/frugalware/lib.php on line 32 > > Warning: main() [function.include]: Failed opening 'lang/fi.php' > for inclusion > (include_path='.:/usr/share/smarty:/usr/share/pear:') in > /mnt/data/ftp/pub/frugalware/frugalware-current/docs/homepage/frugalware/lib.php on line 32 thanks for your bugreport, now works fine. now just visit our homepage, and if any you have any questions after reading our about page, ask it here :) >> Interesting things/questions: >> - package management/manager? pacman, .fpm extension, similar to slackware's tgz >> - general system architecture? currently only x86, and i686 >> - configuration tools? there are some: like netconfig, xconfig, timeconfig, grubconfig >> - default software like desktop environment/window manager? kde, windowmaker, blackbox and other lightweight wms. gnome and xfce is not yet packaged >> - how is it similar to or different from Arch Linux or Slackware? difference between slackware and frugalware: the pacman package manager, and the multilanguage support, in brief. and a lot of small things :) >> - what would be the advantages of choosing Frugalware over other >> distributions? The very simple structure of it. And great multilanguage support. >> - any clear plans for the future yet? (roadmap etc.) There will be a roadmap on our homepage, in one or two week for 0.2 >> kind regards, >> Riku Nurkka >> Finland ps: please subscribe to this list instead of writing directly to me :) udv / greetings, VMiklos -- Developer of Frugalware Linux, to make things frugal - http://frugalware.org From speel3k at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 00:41:34 2004 From: speel3k at gmail.com (speel one) Date: Wed Nov 3 00:43:01 2004 Subject: [Frugalware-users] Re: Frugalware FAQ? In-Reply-To: References: <1099408821.2429.8.camel@berea> <1099409631.2429.13.camel@berea> Message-ID: <98a958580411021541629dd6c1@mail.gmail.com> i seen this in one of the posts >> - any clear plans for the future yet? (roadmap etc.) There will be a roadmap on our homepage, in one or two week for 0.2 does that mean every 2 weeks you guys are going to have a new release? From mamajom at axelero.hu Wed Nov 3 09:00:52 2004 From: mamajom at axelero.hu (VMiklos) Date: Wed Nov 3 09:21:41 2004 Subject: [Frugalware-users] Re: Frugalware FAQ? In-Reply-To: <98a958580411021541629dd6c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1099408821.2429.8.camel@berea> <1099409631.2429.13.camel@berea> <98a958580411021541629dd6c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41889034.4050809@axelero.hu> speel one wrote: > i seen this in one of the posts > >>>- any clear plans for the future yet? (roadmap etc.) > > > There will be a roadmap on our homepage, in one or two week for 0.2 > does that mean every 2 weeks you guys are going to have a new release? Of course, not :) The roadmap will be on the homepage, that will show how we when and how we want to release 0.2. btw we plan about a 6 month release cycle udv / greetings, VMiklos -- Developer of Frugalware Linux, to make things frugal - http://frugalware.org From billt at haube.org Thu Nov 18 01:34:06 2004 From: billt at haube.org (Bill Thompson) Date: Thu Nov 18 01:36:13 2004 Subject: [Frugalware-users] New User Message-ID: <419BEDFE.9020401@haube.org> Hi, After many tries, I finally got frugalware 0.1 installed. I have a few questions that I hope someone can help me with. 1. How can I get access a virtual terminal? 2. Is there any trick to getting sound to work? I have kmix unmuted, volume set for max. I selected ALSA. How can I can setup WindowMaker as default instead of KDE? Except for sound, everything has worked that I tried. Bill -- Live long and prosper... From mamajom at axelero.hu Thu Nov 18 08:34:59 2004 From: mamajom at axelero.hu (VMiklos) Date: Thu Nov 18 08:38:22 2004 Subject: [Frugalware-users] New User In-Reply-To: <419BEDFE.9020401@haube.org> References: <419BEDFE.9020401@haube.org> Message-ID: <419C50A3.80606@axelero.hu> Bill Thompson wrote: > 1. How can I get access a virtual terminal? press ctrl-alt-f1 or -f2 ... -f11 at the kdm screen. if you don't want x to start after boot, edit /etc/inittab (set default runlevel from 3 to 4) > 2. Is there any trick to getting sound to work? I have kmix unmuted, > volume set for max. I selected ALSA. usually i'm using alsamixer. you have to unmute all channels, and then push up the master and the pcm volume. but normally kmix also should work please let us know if alsamixer works > How can I can setup WindowMaker as default instead of KDE? do you mean you can choose windowmaker from kdm menu, but want to set it default? iirc if you once selected windowmaker, then next time that should be the default. you selected wm, and next time kde started again? > Except for sound, everything has worked that I tried. nice to hear :) udv / greetings, VMiklos -- Developer of Frugalware Linux, to make things frugal - http://frugalware.org From billt at haube.org Thu Nov 18 11:38:31 2004 From: billt at haube.org (Bill Thompson) Date: Thu Nov 18 11:42:18 2004 Subject: [Frugalware-users] New User In-Reply-To: <419C50A3.80606@axelero.hu> References: <419BEDFE.9020401@haube.org> <419C50A3.80606@axelero.hu> Message-ID: <419C7BA7.8030009@haube.org> VMiklos said the following on 11/18/2004 02:34 PM: > Bill Thompson wrote: > >> 1. How can I get access a virtual terminal? > > > press ctrl-alt-f1 or -f2 ... -f11 at the kdm screen. if you don't want > x to start after boot, edit /etc/inittab (set default runlevel from 3 > to 4) pressing ctrl-alt-f1...f11 doesn't work. changing the default runlevel worked fine. and i can change virtual terminals with alt-f1....alt-f11 > >> 2. Is there any trick to getting sound to work? I have kmix unmuted, >> volume set for max. I selected ALSA. > > > usually i'm using alsamixer. you have to unmute all channels, and then > push up the master and the pcm volume. but normally kmix also should work > > please let us know if alsamixer works i tried a number of mixers including alsamixer and none of them gave me sound. checking around the system, i came across this in /proc/interrupts. CPU0 0: 2604831 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 1909 IO-APIC-edge i8042 8: 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc 12: 67135 IO-APIC-edge i8042 14: 5620 IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 22 IO-APIC-edge ide1 16: 143247 IO-APIC-level eth0, mga@pci:0000:01:00.0 17: 303 IO-APIC-level Trident Audio 18: 3 IO-APIC-level bttv0, Bt87x audio 19: 31 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd, aic7xxx 20: 0 IO-APIC-level acpi 23: 0 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd NMI: 0 LOC: 2605002 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 i didn't know interrupts existed above 16. frugalware is on a multi-distro machine with mandrake community 10.1. absolutely no sound problems with mandrake and all the interrupts are 16 and below. > >> How can I can setup WindowMaker as default instead of KDE? > > > do you mean you can choose windowmaker from kdm menu, but want to set > it default? iirc if you once selected windowmaker, then next time that > should be the default. you selected wm, and next time kde started again? changing the runlevel gives me what i was looking for. > >> Except for sound, everything has worked that I tried. > > > nice to hear :) > > udv / greetings, > VMiklos > mucho thanks for your help so far. if the interrupts get sorted out, i should have sound. Bill -- Live long and prosper... From mamajom at axelero.hu Thu Nov 18 13:24:29 2004 From: mamajom at axelero.hu (VMiklos) Date: Thu Nov 18 13:28:11 2004 Subject: [Frugalware-users] New User In-Reply-To: <419C7BA7.8030009@haube.org> References: <419BEDFE.9020401@haube.org> <419C50A3.80606@axelero.hu> <419C7BA7.8030009@haube.org> Message-ID: <419C947D.5020801@axelero.hu> Bill Thompson wrote: >> press ctrl-alt-f1 or -f2 ... -f11 at the kdm screen. if you don't want >> x to start after boot, edit /etc/inittab (set default runlevel from 3 >> to 4) > > pressing ctrl-alt-f1...f11 doesn't work. changing the default runlevel > worked fine. and i can change virtual terminals with alt-f1....alt-f11 hm, what keyboard do you have? an usb keyborad caused such problems for me... >> usually i'm using alsamixer. you have to unmute all channels, and then >> push up the master and the pcm volume. but normally kmix also should work >> >> please let us know if alsamixer works > > > i tried a number of mixers including alsamixer and none of them gave me > sound. checking around the system, i came across this in /proc/interrupts. > > CPU0 0: 2604831 IO-APIC-edge timer > 1: 1909 IO-APIC-edge i8042 > 8: 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc > 12: 67135 IO-APIC-edge i8042 > 14: 5620 IO-APIC-edge ide0 > 15: 22 IO-APIC-edge ide1 > 16: 143247 IO-APIC-level eth0, mga@pci:0000:01:00.0 > 17: 303 IO-APIC-level Trident Audio > 18: 3 IO-APIC-level bttv0, Bt87x audio > 19: 31 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd, aic7xxx > 20: 0 IO-APIC-level acpi > 23: 0 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd > NMI: 0 > LOC: 2605002 > ERR: 0 > MIS: 0 > > i didn't know interrupts existed above 16. frugalware is on a > multi-distro machine with mandrake community 10.1. absolutely no sound > problems with mandrake and all the interrupts are 16 and below. try booting with acpi=disable. if this solves the problem it's more easier to continue debugging > mucho thanks for your help so far. if the interrupts get sorted out, i > should have sound. yes, i suppose udv / greetings, VMiklos -- Developer of Frugalware Linux, to make things frugal - http://frugalware.org From billt at haube.org Fri Nov 19 09:39:37 2004 From: billt at haube.org (Bill Thompson) Date: Fri Nov 19 09:48:09 2004 Subject: [Frugalware-users] New User In-Reply-To: <419C947D.5020801@axelero.hu> References: <419BEDFE.9020401@haube.org> <419C50A3.80606@axelero.hu> <419C7BA7.8030009@haube.org> <419C947D.5020801@axelero.hu> Message-ID: <419DB149.2080202@haube.org> VMiklos said the following on 11/18/2004 07:24 PM: > Bill Thompson wrote: > >>> press ctrl-alt-f1 or -f2 ... -f11 at the kdm screen. if you don't >>> want x to start after boot, edit /etc/inittab (set default runlevel >>> from 3 to 4) >> >> >> pressing ctrl-alt-f1...f11 doesn't work. changing the default >> runlevel worked fine. and i can change virtual terminals with >> alt-f1....alt-f11 > > > hm, what keyboard do you have? an usb keyborad caused such problems > for me... a ps2 keyboard. works fine with mandrake ( the only way i can do a comparison). > >>> usually i'm using alsamixer. you have to unmute all channels, and >>> then push up the master and the pcm volume. but normally kmix also >>> should work >>> >>> please let us know if alsamixer works >> >> >> >> i tried a number of mixers including alsamixer and none of them gave >> me sound. checking around the system, i came across this in >> /proc/interrupts. >> >> CPU0 0: 2604831 IO-APIC-edge timer >> 1: 1909 IO-APIC-edge i8042 >> 8: 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc >> 12: 67135 IO-APIC-edge i8042 >> 14: 5620 IO-APIC-edge ide0 >> 15: 22 IO-APIC-edge ide1 >> 16: 143247 IO-APIC-level eth0, mga@pci:0000:01:00.0 >> 17: 303 IO-APIC-level Trident Audio >> 18: 3 IO-APIC-level bttv0, Bt87x audio >> 19: 31 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd, aic7xxx >> 20: 0 IO-APIC-level acpi >> 23: 0 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd >> NMI: 0 >> LOC: 2605002 >> ERR: 0 >> MIS: 0 >> >> i didn't know interrupts existed above 16. frugalware is on a >> multi-distro machine with mandrake community 10.1. absolutely no >> sound problems with mandrake and all the interrupts are 16 and below. > > > try booting with acpi=disable. if this solves the problem it's more > easier to continue debugging i disabled acpi via cmos. all interrupts are 16 and below now. still no sound. the mainboard was recently repaired and returned with my cmos settings changed. other than disabling the onboard audio, operating with mandrake was ok. > >> mucho thanks for your help so far. if the interrupts get sorted out, >> i should have sound. > > > yes, i suppose > > udv / greetings, > VMiklos > bill -- Live long and prosper...