From vmiklos at frugalware.org Fri Feb 3 14:02:19 2006 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (VMiklos) Date: Fri Feb 3 14:02:42 2006 Subject: [Frugalware-users] backup & recovery In-Reply-To: <200601282045.32055.bboross@gmail.com> References: <200601282045.32055.bboross@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060203130218.GW21037@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 08:45:31PM +0100, bboross@gmail.com wrote: > I'd like to use such a software (see subject), and need some tips what is good > for this purpose. > > The main aim is: I have 1 pc, that should be backed up fully (via network or > via hdd-on-usb), i'd like to use some differential method, and the program > should use a database, that is reachable from another programm too( for ex.: > midnight commander :) ) > I found Subversion as a good idea, but it is not for this purpose exactly... huh, as you may notice this list a bit unused (there's no reason for this, just it seems that the forums & irc is more popular) i've just put up for question on irc, boobaa gave me a few usefull links: 13:54 < boobaa> http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ 13:55 < boobaa> http://freshmeat.net/browse/137/ hope this helps, VMiklos -- Developer of Frugalware Linux, to make things frugal - http://frugalware.org From fastfoo at fastmail.fm Mon Feb 20 11:25:35 2006 From: fastfoo at fastmail.fm (Dale) Date: Mon Feb 20 11:26:14 2006 Subject: [Frugalware-users] Frugalware: First impressions Message-ID: <1140431135.29715.254786904@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi there I'm a seasoned Slackware user, running it everywhere, from laptops to all my production servers, but having recently bought a new IBM ThinkPad T43p (with relatively new hardware etc) tweaking slackware is always necessary. Hence my renewed hunt for a slackware-like distro (using a 2.6 kernel by default), but with a more cutting-edge packages (udev without the old hotplug cludge etc) and a dependency-friendly interface. So, I'm giving frugalware a spin. Here are my first impressions. I'm in the process if a netinstall... Downloaded Frugalware 0.4pre2 (frugalware-20060207-i686-net.iso) Keyboard map selection not newbie friendly and qwerty/us.map.gz not selected by default (despite the info message saying so)! In my haste, I accidentally selected a partition for a mount-point and discovered that I could not de-select it, so had to start again. Let me know if I've missed the option to un-assign, or re-assign a partition to a mount point. I chose the expert install and noticed no [REQUIRED] tags (a la slackware). I think it's absolutely necessary to flag essential packages which are required in order to install a skeleton system with basic network and openssh support. I'm not familiar with the dependencies for the frugalware specific packages, so a fair amount of guess-work was involved during my selection. I'd like to add that being given group install options is great for general use, but a MUST is a basic/skeleton install option with the bare minimum, merely to get a working system with basic network connectivity. This is so useful for building a custom, lean, or server system. Note: I was pleasantly surprised when trying out Ubuntu 5.10 that a 'server' install was possible, despite their focus on the Desktop. I'd like to suggest that a basic/skeleton (/frugal) option be made available during the installation process, containing only packages necessary for a basic bootable frugalware system with networking and openssh installed (ie no inetd etc). This would be an ideal platform upon which to build a custom (server) system. Looking forward to booting into Frugalware once installed! bye Dale -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service From fastfoo at fastmail.fm Mon Feb 20 13:52:54 2006 From: fastfoo at fastmail.fm (Dale) Date: Mon Feb 20 13:53:00 2006 Subject: [Frugalware-users] Frugalware: First impressions In-Reply-To: <1140431135.29715.254786904@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1140431135.29715.254786904@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1140439974.12116.254796588@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:25:35 +0200, "Dale" said: > I chose the expert install and noticed no [REQUIRED] tags (a la > slackware). I think it's absolutely necessary to flag essential packages > which are required in order to install a skeleton system with basic > network and openssh support. Despite attempting to do a minimal install, the frugalware install downloaded an additional 190MB of packages and then started installing packages like openldap etc? eh? I hope there's a catch here, as this is the exact reason why I originally avoided distros with complex package managers - the dreaded issue of software being installed when you don't need it, or want it. Can anyone tell me how to initiate a _very_ minimal installation without packages like openldap creeping into the mix? I really don't need all the bloat that goes with a _fully_ installed desktop, a zillion additional libraries, every font on the planet etc. Thanks in advance. Dale -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin From vmiklos at frugalware.org Mon Feb 27 18:39:24 2006 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (VMiklos) Date: Mon Feb 27 18:39:26 2006 Subject: [Frugalware-users] Frugalware: First impressions In-Reply-To: <1140439974.12116.254796588@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1140431135.29715.254786904@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1140439974.12116.254796588@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20060227173924.GK3792@genesis.frugalware.org> Hello, First, sorry for the late reply, the mailing lists are a bit orphaned ;) On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 02:52:54PM +0200, Dale wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to initiate a _very_ minimal installation without > packages like openldap creeping into the mix? I really don't need all > the bloat that goes with a _fully_ installed desktop, a zillion > additional libraries, every font on the planet etc. if you really want only a basic system, just select base, nothing else, it should be less than 100mb udv / greetings, VMiklos -- Developer of Frugalware Linux, to make things frugal - http://frugalware.org